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On a 20KW automatic whole house generator, the 14-2 wire used as control and sensing can this wire be solid or strand or it doesn't matter.

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Depending on code. Stranded wire typically has a higher ampacity than solid. However, on the sensing circuit, this shouldn't matter that much unless the distance is extreme.
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While stranded wire should be utilized, we would recommend checking with your local inspector, to ensure that this requirement is acceptable within your local codes; local ordinances will always supersede our recommendations as the unit’s manufacturer. If you have any other product-related inquiries, please contact us directly at 888-GENERAC (436-3722).
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Induction Load

Just installed whole hse Generator 20kw, i performed a transfer test. Everything ran smooth until primary hot tub pump came on. Its sounded like the pump was whining up and down. I checked the load with an amp probe, it was about 25 amps on each phase. Which is about 30% of the capacity. I shut the hut tub off on the breaker, i turned on most of the loads in my home (60 amps each phase) and there was no problems. I'm wondering if induction Load such as motor is not fooling voltage regulator in the generator, which causes voltage irregularities. Do i need to install choke transformer to bring the harmonics down?
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Did you try to use the load shed overload terminals in the transfer switch? I'd be curious if you did and how they operate. The manual doesn't provide much explanation.
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how to set exercise timer on generator

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To set the exercise you will want to go to the control board, hit ESC (escape). Then use the arrow keys till you see SUB MENUS flashing; hit ENTER on SUB MENUS. Once in SUB MENUS, use the arrow keys till you see EDIT flashing, hit ENTER on EDIT. Once in EDIT, you will use the arrow keys till you see EXERCISE TIME flashing, hit ENTER on EXERCISE TIME. Once in the EXERCISE TIME screen, it will go through select hour, select minute, and select day. Make sure you hit enter on each one. Once you do this, you can hit ESC all the way through, until you see HOURS OF PROTECTION.
These directions are also listed under the “Setting the Exercise Timer” portion of the “Operation” section in your unit’s owner’s manual. To locate your unit’s documentation online, please use your product’s model or serial number via the following link: http://www.generac.com/service-supp....
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I have a 1" gas main to supply a 90,000 btu natural gas furnace Will the 1" gas main be large enough for a 20kw generator if the furnace is not used?

I have a pellet stove that I can use for heating if needed.
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Unfortunately, we as the unit’s manufacturer are unable to size the necessary gas line for your generator. In order to determine the appropriate line size, and to verify that it will meet your local codes, we would recommend working with your local gas company, to ensure that the unit is appropriately configured; an improper fuel line sizing will likely render the unit inoperable. When sizing the gas line, please note that it should be sized for use at full load. Generac’s 20kw Guardian Series automatic standby generator, model number 6244, will require 308,000 btu/hr at full load, and a water column of 3.5-7”. If you require any specifications or information particular to a certain unit, please either use the unit’s model or serial number via the following link: http://www.generac.com/service-supp..., or contact us directly at 888-GENERAC (436-3722).
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What does it mean when both the green light & yellow light are on at the same time

What does it mean when both the green light & yellow light are on at
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As detailed in your unit’s owner’s manual, the green “Ready” light should be on when utility power is present and the Control Panel button is in the AUTO position; this light will also indicate when the generator is operating. The Yellow “Maintenance” light will light-up as a reminder to provide maintenance to the generator; this alarm can also be on at the same time as the red or green LEDs. Please note that a yellow light, when paired with a green light, will not render the unit inoperable, however, it may indicate a condition that if not attended to, could eventually disable the unit from running properly. If you are uncomfortable with providing maintenance to your unit, and would like to locate an independent authorized dealer in your local area for maintenance, please use your postal code for searching purposes here: http://www.generac.com/dealer-locat.... If you have any other product-related inquiries, please contact us directly at 888-GENERAC (436-3722).
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generac 20kw stndby how many control wires are needed from 200 amp transfer switch to generator

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Generac’s 20kw Guardian automatic standby generator, model number 6244, will feature six control wires (N1, N2, T1, 194, 23, and 0). Please note that the size of wire that should be utilized on your unit will vary with the distance between your generator and associated transfer switch. Wire size recommendations for the control wiring is located in the transfer switch manual. We recommend confirming the recommended wire size with your local inspector or certified electrician, as local codes may vary. If you have any other product-related inquiries, please contact us directly at 888-GENERAC (436-3722).
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my generator runs but no power to house whats the problem

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check the breaker on the generator is not tripped or in the OFF position, if the breaker is tripped or OFF the generator will not output power to the house
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Three simple steps
1rst is the transfer switch lever in the emergency position?
2nd is the generator breaker on the side of the housing tripped?
3rd are their any faults being logged on gen display?
If any of these yes correct. If all of the answers are no. Then call 1 888 generac and ask for your nearest dealer. Problem may have to be diagnosed by a certified technician . Which will be the safest and most efficient way to correct issue.
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Chart

Is there a Chart I Can Print out that tells what all you can run with different sizes of Generators
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Due to the fact that various products manufactured by different businesses will feature a wide range of amperage and voltage ratings, we are unable to provide any sort of chart that specifies which units can run a randomized set of loads. To give you an initial idea of what generator might best fit your back-up power needs, we would recommend referring to the tool provided on the following link: http://www.generac.com/for-homeowne.... Furthermore, to ensure that you are utilizing the appropriate generator for your home’s configuration and back-up power needs, we would recommend working with an independent authorized dealer in your local area. To locate an independent authorized dealer closest to you, please use your postal code for searching purposes here: http://www.generac.com/dealer-locat.... If you have any other product-related inquiries, please contact us directly at 888-GENERAC (436-3722).
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At 7,000 ft above sea level, what's the power/amp?

For your 20kW guardian.
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Generac’s 20kw Guardian Series automatic standby generator is rated for a maximum power output of 20,000 watts when running on a liquid propane fuel source, and 18,000 watts on a natural gas fuel source. Maximum power decreases about 3.5% for each 1,000 feet above sea level and will also decrease about 1% for each 6°C (10°F) above 16°C (60°F) ambient temperature. If you have any other product-related inquiries, please contact us directly at 888-GENERAC (436-3722).
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Guardian model 6244 transfer switch load shedding

Let's say I have two A/C units (call them A and B, in that priority) and the Generac gets overloaded...do both A/C compressors get dropped, or just the B unit first, and the A unit if necessary to get under 18kW (on natural gas)?

If both compressors get dropped, and it adds back the A unit after a few minutes, will it always automatically add back the B unit, or will it only add the B unit if it knows (does it store the startup amp data?) that it can handle it?

I want to avoid a scenario where it adds back both units and can't actually handle everything (including the startup needs for one at a time) and drops them both right away (rather than just the B unit), so that I basically would never get cooling.
State: CT - Connecticut
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Take a look at GenMax load shedding controller.

The load shedding is based on a priority order set of loads with user preset current inputs, i.e. you enter the current (ex. 17 amperes) of the loads and the system only turns the loads on if there is available current. If not, it waits until there is available current.

If an overload occurs then it sheds loads in reverse priority order until satisfied. If it cannot satisfy the overload fast enough by shedding one-by-one, it drops all the loads to save the generator.
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The 20kW automatic standby, when paired with a Nexus Smart Switch transfer switch, will have load shedding capabilities. The Nexus Smart Switch has a load shed module that will handle up to six larger loads with the use of the pre-designated contacts, two of which are designated for air conditioner units. The (2) air conditioner contacts will be connected via the 24v low voltage thermostat wires for your air conditioner. These (2) contacts automatically come ready to use in the switch. If additional load management/shedding is required, we offer load management modules as individual accessories. Up to 4 load management modules can be used with each switch to monitor and shed additional large motor loads like your hot water heater, well pump, etc.

When the generator starts up, these 6 non-priority loads will remain off for 5 minutes. After 5 minutes, these non-priority loads will stagger start based on priority to ensure the most efficient generator use. First AC contact 1 and DLM Priority 1, thirty seconds later it will start AC2 and P2, then P3, then P4. This eliminates the huge surge of these large motors all at the same time, which allows a smaller generator to power more by running more efficiently.

The load shedding module will monitor the generator while it is operating to ensure it is not overloaded. If the generator becomes overloaded, (if the engine frequency drops) the load shed module will shed all of the connected loads, reducing the demand on the generator. The load shed module will then begin a five minute timer, after which, each load will be brought on in priority order. Typically via 30 second stagger start. Each time the generator becomes overloaded, the load shed module will intervene and shed all of the connected loads to prevent the unit from shutting down.
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Thanks for the input, David/Pinky. What you quoted refers to the RTS switch...I'm not so sure that the 6244 uses that switch, and if doesn't, I'm hoping it doesn't work the same way. If the 6244's switch sheds both A and B in the event of an overload (rather than B first, and A only if necessary) the load-shedding isn't really a worthwhile feature (in my situation) and maybe I wouldn't hook up condenser B to the generator at all (I could hook up the furnace fan but not the condenser, so that unit would produce heat but not a/c).

Hopefully Generac can shed some light here.
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Thanks for the input, David/Pinky. What you quoted refers to the RTS switch...I'm not so sure that the 6244 uses that switch, and if doesn't, I'm hoping it doesn't work the same way. If the 6244's switch knocks both A and B out in the event of an overload (rather than B first, and A only if necessary) the load-shedding isn't really a worthwhile feature for me and maybe I wouldn't hook up condenser B to the generator at all.

Hopefully Generac can shed some light here. Also, I'm wondering if in an overload ONLY A, B, etc are shed or is EVERYTHING shed (like my lights).
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The below information has been gleamed from Appendix C, page 20 of the Generac Installation manual and from page 2 and 3 of the RTS Installation Manual.

Air #A and Contractor 1 are handled as a Priority 1 load.
Air #B and Contractor 2 are handled as a Priority 2 load.
Contractor 3 is handled as a Priority 3 load.
Contractor 4 is handled as a Priority 4 load.

When an overload is detected all loads are shed.

After 5 minutes Priority 1 load is re-established (or AC #A).

If no additional overload is detected within 30 seconds then Priority 2 load is re-established (AC #B).

If after another 30 seconds no overload is detected Priority Load #3 is re-established.

Again after 30 seconds in no overload is detected Priority 4 is re-established.

Please be aware that if an overload condition is detected at any point after any of the loads are re-established all loads will be shed and the 5 minute timer starts again, and the entire load re-established process begins again.

So yes, under the scenario that you propose, it is possible to get caught on a load shed/load re-establishment cycle. A couple of ideas; do not use Contractor 1 or Contractor 2 so you do not further tax those Priority Loads.

If you are home, turn off AC #B so that it will not trip an overload condition.

But I can find no other documented way for the LSM (Load Shedding Module) to "know" that it will overload by adding AC B and therefore decide not to add it.

I will be interested to hear what Generac says.

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State: PA - Pennsylvania
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what is the ammount of fuel used per hr? propane fuel

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The 20kw Generator specification's state that @ half load generator will use an average of 1.64 gallons per hour. Generator being used at @ 100 percent load will use an average 2.95 gallons per hour. Keep in mind that many factors can cause these numbers to vary due to different loads. One Example : If a house is poorly insulated generator even though it may not be used at full load may affect the fuel consumption due to A/C inrush current duty cycles are higher than a house that is well insulated . I hope this gives you an idea of what to expect from a 20 kw generator.
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When operating at full load on a liquid propane vapor fuel source, Generac’s 20kw Guardian Series automatic standby generator, model number 6244, will require 350,000 btu/hr, and 10-12” of water column. If you are interested in obtaining further specifications regarding this unit, they can be obtained by either contacting us directly at 888-GENERAC (436-3722), or using the model or serial number of the product in question via the following link: http://www.generac.com/service-supp....
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are there 5 or 6 control wires from generator to transfer switch

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Their are 3 ATS DC control wires .And 2 sensing and 1 load or battery charger supply wires. Makes a total of 6 wires . Always good precaution to run spares , especially if distances of wire pull are long.
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20kw propane distance from the regulator

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Propane regulator distance is not as important as long as your distance is sized properly according to Generac specification . Please refer to your installation guide for proper gas specifications.
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In the event of a prolonged power outage, what is the consumption rate of propane in gallons per day ?

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To give proper answer , three questions need to be answer. 1 Type of ATS, 2. Size of generator and 3. What is your total amps while this is happening at gen load lugs.
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Re 20K smart switches

I must have the switch located outside. Is the enclosure designed for outside installation and if so what are the requirements?
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Generac has switches available for interior use or exterior use. The spec of enclosure regardless of model you want to use is a nema 3 enclosure which is specifically design to withstand outdoor climate conditions. For your info interior enclosures will have a nema 1 rating . I hope this has answered your question.
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Generac’s automatic standby generators and associated transfer switches are typically recommended to be installed as close to the fuel source and incoming utility meter as possible. The Smart Switch included with the 20kw Guardian Series automatic standby generator, model number 6244, can be installed outdoors; it features a NEMA 3R enclosure, making it suitable for both indoor and outdoor installations. Your fuel line installer and certified electrician will be able to appropriately size the fuel line and wiring for installation to ensure there are no loss in fuel pressure or voltage drop due to the distances. The unit can also be installed as far away as necessary, provided that the proper wire gauge and fuel pipe size is utilized. Depending on your existing set up and backup power needs, the installing electrician will be able to determine the best location for the transfer switch. Further information on proper installation can be found in the installation guidelines provided with the unit. We recommend discussing the installation with your electrician or installer, as state and local codes may vary, and will supersede manufacturer recommendations for installation. To locate an independent authorized dealer for installation assistance, please use your postal code for searching purposes via the following link: http://www.generac.com/dealer-locat.... If you have any other product-related inquiries, please contact us directly at 888-GENERAC (436-3722).
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How do I change the start time on the generator?

Fro when the power goes out until the generator starts
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Generac’s Guardian Series automatic standby generators feature a start-up delay time of 2-1500 seconds; this setting is followed by a 5-second generator warm-up. If the start-up delay on your unit is different than what you desire or expected, please contact an independent authorized service provider in your local area, to have the time adjusted. To locate an independent authorized service provider closest to you, please use your postal code for searching purposes via the following link: http://www.generac.com/dealer-locat....
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Yellow light on after service??

Just had service on my Generac 10 KW standby guardian series generator. First installed 12-6-2012. Yellow light came on around 12-6-2013. service just completed by installer. Yellow light still on. Service man says everything is fine?? Why does yellow light not go off?? Thank you for info
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The serviceman probably did not reset the "oil change required" alarm. Open the top and hold down the enter button to reset the alarm. The yellow light should go off. If that doesn't work, check your manual or do an Internet search to find out how to reset the alarm. It's really pretty simple.
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Use of AC contacts

Can my 6244 be installed without connecting the 24v low voltage thermostat wires for my air conditioner? I have only one AC and it would be difficult to get the 24v bell wire out to the generator. If I don't place anything on that load management module won't the AC simply come on when the electricity is restored by the generator. I realize that one losses the load management feature this way but as long as too great a demand is not being put on the generator all the appliance which are on (including AC thermostat calling for cooling) should operate shouldn't they?
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Generac’s 20kw Guardian Series automatic standby generator, model number 6244, features a rating of 20,000 watts and 83.3 amps on a liquid propane fuel source, and 18,000 watts and 75 amps on a natural gas fuel source. We recommend ensuring that the loads that you desire to provide back-up power to not exceed these ratings. To ensure that your installation is appropriately configured, we recommend working with an independent authorized dealer in your local area. To locate an independent authorized dealer in closest to you, please use your postal code for searching purposes here: http://www.generac.com/dealer-locat....
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Can they be installed in a warehouse with proper ventilation?

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Generac’s air-cooled automatic standby generators are manufactured to be installed in outdoor environments only. Even if the unit is properly ventilated, overheating and carbon monoxide-related concerns will still exist. As we do not have specifications on how to appropriately ventilate an unit via an indoor installation, we are unable to provide any sort of coverage for potential damage or issues incurred from such a set-up. If you have any other product-related inquiries, please contact us directly at 888-GENERAC (436-3722).
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How much does installation cost?

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For a 20kw with 20' of gas and a max of 20' to your panel.....approx. $7 - 8K . This is in Houston, Tx. If you sub plumbing and elec. out...and pull your own permit you can save some $.
State: TX - Texas
Age: Over 65
answered 1 year, 1 month ago
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pete3
Houston
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answer 2
In the neighborhood of $10,000 +\- $1,000 depending on your specific home/layout. Great piece of mind for the next storm!
State: FL - Florida
Age: 55-64
answered 1 year, 4 months ago
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Stevie Ray
Pensacola
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answer 3
I live in NJ and it ended up costing about $10,500 total including the price of the generator/transfer switch ($4500 through amazon). I poured concrete slab $30, Permits were $268, Electrician was $2650, Plumber $1500, and PSEG $1400 for new gas meter because my old one wouldn't supply enough fuel for all appliance and generator. I assume the price could vary significantly based on location of generator relative to utilities, materials, trenching, and any applicable utility upgrades needed such as meter or new gas service lines.
State: NJ - New Jersey
Age: 25-34
This product will backup: Entire Home
answered 1 year, 8 months ago
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philsnj
NJ
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answer 4
This is a difficult question to answer but we get it all the time. The equipment itself is a standard price. Installation is sometimes very simple depending on the location of the generator. We found that using the load centers can save customers a lot of money for time and materials for the electrical install. If the unit is propane, many times the propane company will install the piping for a lower price in order to gain you as a customer to buy fuel from. There are many variables with every installation. We usually can give customers a range on what it will cost based on previous installs. Best thing to do is call and have us come out to give you a more accurate price on the entire job. We offer turn key installation and back it up with certified tech's to handle any service/warranty work. We always have someone ready to answer your call and answer any questions you may have. - John - Bay State Generator
State: MA - Massachusetts
Age: 35-44
This product will backup: Entire Home
 
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answered 3 years ago
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BayStateGenerator
Boston, MA
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answer 5
My cost of installation by a professional Generac dealer was roughly equivalent to the cost of the generator. Contact a local Generac dealer for a quote.
State: IL - Illinois
Age: 45-54
This product will backup: Entire Home
answered 3 years, 1 month ago
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hokie21
Hawthorn Woods
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answer 6
Installation really varies, due to the specific needs of every customer, as well as local building codes and requirements. We recommend contacting a local Generac dealer to find out the particular cost of an installation at your home. Many dealers will not charge for a site visit to discuss your needs and provide you with an estimate. To find one near you, please visit http://www.generac.com/Service/Deal...
answered 3 years, 7 months ago
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GeneracPowerSystems
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